It's All About Making Contacts: Author Interview with Lea Geller

Most everyone thinks they can write a novel. What made you decide to write one? 

I began writing for public consumption by blogging. In my blog, www.thisisthecornerwepeein.com, I shared publicly the parenting stories all my friends were urging me to “write down.” As a mom of five kids relatively close in age, I felt like each week brought a new misadventure or mishap. Once I started sharing them, I was surprised by how many people wrote and thanked me — and I heard a lot of “I’m glad to know it’s not just me.”  

I did this for a few years (and still do) and one day, a reader reached out and asked me if I had ever thought about writing a novel because a friend of hers was teaching a novel workshop at Sarah Lawrence. The class was actually a romance novel class, and I knew one thing for sure: I did not have a romance novel in me (at least not at the time). The instructor assured me that a novel is a novel and I’d learn all the basics I’d need for any genre. She was right. I walked into the class and started working on the book. 

What inspired your story?

The story was inspired by some of the women I’d met when I lived in Santa Monica years ago — at the time I began having children. They were women married to much older, wealthier men, and I’d always wondered what their marriages would look like in ten years’ time.  

It was also inspired by my sons when they were in middle school. The house was full of them and their friends and I remember sitting where they would not see me, but I could listen to them talk about how little their teachers liked them, how little they thought their parents liked them, and how little they liked themselves. Middle school is a fascinating time for me as a parent and this book was partially borne from those experiences. 

Okay, that needs some clarification. How do Santa Monica trophy wives and insecure MG kids fit into the same book? Could you give my readers a short blurb about how they merge together in the book?

The two are not a normal mix, but I started with the boys and asked myself -- people don't really like middle school boys... who else don't they like? who would be a good foil? I think that's I fell upon the fallen trophy wife idea. Also, they are both underestimated, and at times misjudged... the more I thought about it, the more it seemed like a good fit.

And it seems like the idea worked with your publisher as well. Tell me about your publisher, Lake Union, which is Amazon Publishing’s “Book Club” Fiction imprint. What exactly does a “book club publisher” mean?

That’s a great question. I think it means you write a book that people — often women — want to sit around and discuss. It’s a pretty wide genre, when it’s put like that — because virtually anything can be book club fodder. But I think books about women, in particular, are front and center. 

How did that connection come together? 

I actually sold to Lake Union without an agent, early on in the process. I had sent a draft out to agents and through a friend got it in front of Amazon Publishing.

When they made me an offer, I jumped! The pros and cons of Amazon Publishing are pretty well known to authors — you may not see your books in all stores, but as an Amazon author, there are certain benefits/promotions. So far, I have been really happy. 

Is Lake Union a hybrid or a traditional publisher? What marketing do they expect you to do?

They function as a traditional publisher in terms of buying your book and setting you up with an editor, cover artist, and marketing team. Then they distribute your book online and in some stores. A few months after they bought the book, I began the editing process with them. As with any publisher, as a new author, I am responsible for a good amount of my own publicity - both in terms of social media and promoting myself at events. 

How long did it take you to write your book?

It took me a year to write, and a year to take apart and rewrite! 

Who encouraged you along the way?

My novel workshop, my teachers, my blog readers and my family. My kids were calling me a novelist when I only had a rough draft in hand. It’s hard not to be encouraged by that! 

How many rewrites did you do on it? Who helped you with the editing?

MANY - too many to keep track of. I worked with a teacher of mine at Sarah Lawrence who read and commented on many drafts of the book. 

What has surprised you the most in writing/publishing?

I’ve been surprised by the incredible online community of women’s fiction writers and readers. It turns out that the loneliest profession isn’t so lonely after all.

What frustrated you the most? 

I think all writers are frustrated by things they hear along the way. I’ll never forget a call I had with an agent who told me that women’s fiction was dead. Most of the book-buyers I know are women and they all love to read stories by and about other women… 

What do you know now about writing you wished you had known sooner?

If the scene adds nothing to your story, cut it - even if it’s hysterical.

What is the best writing advice you’ve received or could give?

Nora Ephron: Everything is copy. (Your life is material, even if you don’t directly write about it.) 

Any other points about writing you would like to add?

I know a lot of people who say they’d write if they could find the time. I said that, too. At the end of the day though, the time is there to be found. It can be done, and if you’ve been waiting a long time to do it (as I had), it’s surprisingly liberating to sit down and start. 

That’s all for today’s interview. If you’d like to learn more about Lea’s writing and buy a book, here are some ways to do that.

www.leageller.com

www.thisisthecornerwepeein.com

Real Science & Suspense Meeting in a Novel: An Author Interview with Ransom Stephens

Your professional background is in particle physics research and tech development. How do you go from a likely technical field that it only understandable to a few to writing a novel for the masses?

I’ve been writing since I could write. School newspapers, stories, lots of essays and so forth. It’s how I sort my thoughts. Over the years, documenting my work has accounted for whatever success I’ve experienced in every career I’ve pursued. Over the years, I never stopped writing stories and poems as well as explanatory essays on science and technology. So there wasn’t so much a transition as an altering of priorities.

How you do break down the scientific jargon to laymen’s terms?

The transition from writing dry technical stuff to writing suspense fiction was more of a refinement. The tools are the same, the techniques differ. Adverbs, for example, are strangely useful in conveying complex topics while being annoyingly useless, yet easy to abuse, in fiction. Over the years, people who read my narrative work provided enough positive reinforcement that I figured I could do it and being a novelist was third on my list of life goals; behind being a scientist and playing linebacker for the Oakland Raiders (I still haven’t given up on that).

Popular science writing is a wonderful challenge. There are two primary guiding rules. The first, use as little jargon as possible. Trying to understand complicated concepts is hard enough without being asked to learn a new language; a lesson that I ODed on when I moved from physics research at national labs and universities to tech development in the private sector. I had no idea what the engineers were talking about until I realized that they just used different jargon. The second rule is to milk metaphors like you work at a science-writing dairy. But use better ones than that.

Are any of the characters in your book based on people you know?

Most of my characters are an amalgamation of people I know and my own alter-egos. So far, none of my characters are autobiographical. The closest is Chopper, the villain in The Sensory Deception. My characters have quite different religious and political opinions than mine. For example, Foster Reed, the evangelical physicist in The God Patent is based on a combination of a childhood friend who is Mormon and the only devoutly religious physicist I’ve ever known. From that starting point, over several revisions, Foster evolved into that character. He took a lot of work, probably because we had so little in common.

What inspired you to come up with the concept of The God Patent? One night, while walking around in a Florida swamp with a beer buzz, I thought of the model of the soul that forms the premise for The God Patent. I was a post doctoral research associate at the time, which means that my understanding of quantum physics and relativity and all that stuff was at a pinnacle. I explained the model to a few people and decided that it would be more interesting if I could wrap it in a plot so that people could discover it as Ryan and Katarina do in The God Patent. It took another ten years to come up with that plot.

The thing I like about this model of the soul, and I won’t tell you whether I believe it or not, has to do with faith. You see, I am very curious about why people take leaps of faith. Horoscopes, for example. Why would anyone think that the position of stars and planets could affect them? It’s a leap of faith. Science involves faith, too, but at a different scale: steps of faith, not leaps. You can’t perform every experiment, so believing other people’s results requires an element of faith, but not a leap.

The cool thing about the model of the soul in The God Patent, for me anyway, is that its believability is reduced to a single yes/no question. A single, well-defined step of faith. No great leap, just a yes/no question. A question which, evidently, requires about 400 pages of build-up. If you answer the question “yes” then you believe that model of the soul. And lots of people do answer “yes” which I find at once redeeming and kind of scary. I have no desire to lead a cult.

How long did it take you to write the first book? How many rewrites did you do on it? The first draft took four months, the second six months, the 3rd and 4th took three months each, the 5th and 6th each took a few weeks. A total of about 18 months and, by that, I mean an average of 2-3 hours each day.

For that first book, you have 85 reviews on Amazon. How did you manage to get so many people to be motivated to write a review for a less than well-known name?

The God Patent got terrific buzz right from the start. First, when I uploaded it to Scribd, it was in their top 5 most-read novels for the better part of a year and then when Numina Press published the print version, the San Francisco Chronicle did a big feature article. Plus, I promoted it relentlessly through speeches, articles, YouTube videos and literary events. I used four different speeches for promotion, two covering the science, one for writers groups, and an unrelated career development speech. The point being, that I got The God Patent in a lot of hands. I think I gave almost 50 speeches to different groups in about 18 months.

At the end of the book, there’s a message “From the author” where I ask people to send me an email of their thoughts. Lots of readers send me notes and I ask them to write a review; about half of them do so. Asking for favors runs contrary to my grain, I’m kinda shy with strangers, so it’s personally painful to ask for those reviews, but I force myself and people are pretty happy to do it. As far as I know, no one’s ever been offended.

You also wrote Your Pursuit of Greatness - a workbook which you say evolved from a speech you’ve been giving for years. How did you get started in doing inspirational speaking?

Here’s the story. Back in the mid-90s, when I was an Assistant Professor of Physics, i.e., junior faculty, the dean came to my office and said, “We need more science majors so I’m asking someone from each department to give an hour speech to the incoming freshman class. If our enrollment increases by 10% your chances for tenure will increase at least that much.”

When I gave the first version of that speech, originally called How I avoided Growing Up, the students gushed over it. The dean’s admin told me that to this day, students still tell her the effect that speech had on their career choices. The message is pretty simple: you might as well try to do what you really want to do because the world is a big place and life is short. You either succeed or you die trying, but you’re going to die anyway.

I kept giving that speech to incoming freshman every year. I got tenure and left academia, but kept going back to give some version of that speech. Then, when The God Patent came out, right during the great recession, I figured with all those unemployed people that I had a captive audience so I booked a bunch of speeches at employment development centers, networking events and so forth and handed out bookmarks and sold books. It got the word out, but marketing to people who are broke might have been a dubious concept.

Your second novel, The Sensory Deception, is coming out in August. Are there any similarities between that book and your first novel? They are similar in the sense that their premises are built around cutting edge science. I think the science is better integrated in The Sensory Deception.

The idea for The Sensory Deception came from a newspaper article about a polar bear that swam from ice floes off of Greenland to Iceland. Two weeks of swimming, looking for ice and not finding any. Finally the bear washes up on shore and the police shoot it. Here’s a link to the story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/05/animalwelfare.animalbehaviour

It occurred to me that if people could experience that first hand, it might alter their politics, might turn them into environmentalists. So I started thinking about nature-based immersive virtual reality and came up with the idea for “sensory saturation,” did a little research and discovered that the effect had been verified by neuro-scientists.

What inspired you to consider writing what it would feel like to be an animal?

The idea is that if you’re inundated with sensory information, your brain doesn’t have time to reflect, to think, and your time horizon reduces from what you experience now, hours, weeks, years, decades, to a window of about ten seconds—the reality of most animals. Developing characters and a plot for that premise led me to Gloria, the brilliant, beautiful Iranian Jew venture capitalist, Farley Rutherford, the naive natural born leader, Chopper Vittori, the migraine-tortured badass neurologist, and Ringo Hayes, the uber-geek engineer.

From a writer’s standpoint, the idea of writing from an animal’s point of view is a wonderful challenge. Animals process information differently, whales, for example, visualize through sonar and bears are more attuned to scent and taste than sight. So those POV passages are detail heavy. I usually hate excessive details, but they’re necessary here so I had to balance my loathing of irrelevant details with conveying the sense of an animal’s reality. From the twenty or so people who’ve read the manuscript and the response at readings, the polar bear and sperm whale POV pieces come off pretty well.

How do you write? Did you do an outline first? Did you do individual character development before doing the full plot?

I develop an outline as far as my own impatience allows, usually, 3-4 pages of initial ideas for how the story unfolds. For The God Patent, The Sensory Deception, and the novel I’m working on now, The Time Prisoner, the plots come to me in the middle of the night. I get up and run into another room and lay down the essential story. It takes a few weeks to eek out the other details and, during that time, I start building characters.

I need to know my characters pretty well before I can start drafting. To nail down their attributes and get an idea of their quirks, I use specially modified dungeons and dragons character sheets. Yes, I played DnD in high school, thoroughly baked most of the time. If you want a copy of my character sheet, send me a note: ransom@ransomstephens.com .

Tell me how you got involved with 47North for your publishing? 

The Sensory Deception was ready to go in January of 2012 and I was shopping it around to agents and publishers. I got about 40 rejections—every writer knows how it works—as well as two offers from small publishers including Numina Press, who published The God Patent. Since The Sensory Deception is more blockbuster-y and less “literary,” I wanted a bigger house to get behind it so, with all voices of self-doubt in my head telling me I was crazy, I turned down both of the publishers. 

A few months later, in July of 2012, with that growing stack of rejections, I started looking for a developmental editor to help me fix it up. I’d gotten great feedback and encouragement from the San Francisco Writers Workshop and the handful of writers, including some authors of bestsellers, so I believed it was a good project, a full-speed techno-eco-science thriller, if you will.

One morning in the middle of July, I was at hotel in Silicon Valley getting dressed before heading to a high-tech development conference, “The PCIe SIG-DevCon” (see what I mean about engineering jargon?), and checked my email. There was a note from someone who had read The God Patent—as I already told you, I get these notes now and them. The note went on about how he loved the story and characters, premise and so forth. So I’m patting myself on the back, “Yes isn’t this nice, another love letter from my adoring—“ and the letter concluded with “…by the way, I’m an acquisition editor with 47North and I’d like to talk to you about your writing career. Do you have any other manuscripts we could consider?”

What happened next?

I talked to him the next day and sent him The Sensory Deception manuscript. Then I sweated for a month, waiting. During that time, I wrote a note to myself promising that no matter what their response, I would not alter my pursuit of this goal.

The lesson for other writers, as well as myself, is that this sort of good fortune (who are we kidding, it’s luck) that he read my book—results from years of effort. Writing fiction had been my top priority every day for seven years when this opportunity found me. That it found me was a result of uploading The God Patent and doing everything I could to get word out.

In scientific terms, I made a big cross section, a big target that made it possible for good fortune to find. In the current state of the publishing industry writers have to expose themselves. For many of us, putting our work, our metaphorical necks, on the line runs counter to our every instinct, but it’s the only way to reach that point where someday, maybe, if we keep pushing long enough, we’ll be allowed to sit in a favorite chair, in the dark corner of a favorite room, with a couple of dogs at our feet and be left alone to write fiction for living.

What is the best advice you’ve been given about writing you would like to pass along?

I can’t think of a single piece of advice. I’m a craft junkie and so the best advice I’ve been given is a long list of lessons about how to write compelling stories with interesting characters. I put most of them on my website for anyone to check out: ransomstephens.com/the-craft.htm

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