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Showing posts with label writing for the Christian market. Show all posts
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Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Tips from an Editor and Author: An Interview with Martin Wiles

You are both an author and freelance editor. Which one do you identify with the most? 
Since I’m mainly a devotional author and devotional freelance editor, I suppose I identify with both equally. I’ve been writing seriously since 2009 and editing for about four years.

As an editor, you see lots of query letters and proposals. What advice would you give writers in sending out query letters and proposals?
Most of the places I send query letters to state how long a writer should expect before a response is forthcoming. I personally don’t follow up with an editor unless that time has passed. As a writer and an editor, I try to imagine how many submissions and query letters they probably receive each day and also remember that I’m no more important than the next person—regardless of my list of accomplishments. At Christian Devotions, where I serve as Managing Editor, our submission guidelines tell those who submit devotions how long it may take to hear a response.

My query letter is short and to the point. I assume editors are busy people and don’t have time to read a lot of unnecessary fluff in my proposals. I am running into more and more places who use Submittable (or some similar service) to receive submissions. In these cases, a query letter is not always an option, or at the least is optional.

Telling why you are a good person to write a particular piece is also important. If I want to write a piece on counseling, I should have some experience and education in that area. Otherwise, the editor is probably not going to publish the article. So a short bio in a query letter is a good idea. The editor may want to know more about you, but they can ask if they need the information. It’s also a good practice to keep one’s bio updated on all social media outlets and websites.

I work strictly with devotional submissions, and one of the most common mistakes I see writers make is not following submission guidelines. This can range from acceptable topics, to formatting, to word length, to grammar issues. The first thing I do when receiving a devotion is check it for word length. Submissions that are over are immediately returned. So writers—of whatever genre—can save themselves a lot of trouble and increase their chances of acceptance by following the guidelines. 

For what genres do you act as an editor?
At Christian Devotions, we look for what the name states: devotions. Anything that doesn’t fit our schemata is returned. Writers who send queries are referred to the Write for Us tab on the website. At Lighthouse Publishing of the Carolinas, I post and edit articles for their website. These come from books that have already passed through the editing and publishing process, so here length and formatting are the main areas I work with.

How does being an editor affect your own writing?
I’m convinced editing the writing of others improves my own writing skills. Of course, this requires constant refreshing of my skills. I attend at least one writing conference each year. I also subscribe to a daily email from a grammar website. Additionally, I keep the grammar handbook that I taught from handy at all times. And as one author and editor friend taught me to do, I consult Miriam Webster when I have a question. I believe to help others I must keep my skills honed.

Your bio shows you’ve written for a number of sources including devotional magazines, school curriculum, and newspapers. What led you to publish your first book, Morning by Morning?
Knowing the difficulty of being picked up by a traditional publisher—and not having the money to go the subsidy publishing route—I stumbled upon what was then Publish America. Feeling this was the only option I had at the moment, I took it. I subsequently published two more books with them: Morning Serenity, and Grace Greater Than Sin. Having something in print and having something that would outlast my lifetime were important motivating factors for me.

Publish America eventually morphed into American Star. I’ve seen tons of
complaints about them. What was your experience?
My experience with Publish America (now American Star) has been mixed. Since my writing skills were fairly developed at that time, I feel the books published by them are quality books. However, I’m afraid that wouldn’t be true with every book they publish. They offer no editing services, so published manuscripts are published as they are sent in. If a writer is going to use them, they need to have a professional edit their manuscript before sending it.

The cost of their books are sometimes prohibitive. Less pages means lower cost. While there is no cost to publish a book with them, there are hidden costs if you want your book to sell. No free marketing is included. They offer services to make the print book an e-book and to sell it in certain venues, but all come at a cost: the purchase of so many books. Shipping costs are prohibitive. Each book is charged the same shipping cost, which I assume is where they recuperate much of their expense.

While all authors should be willing to undertake the task of marketing their books—regardless of what publishing route they take—they will have to step up to a heavier degree with Publish America. I would not recommend them. As far as I can remember, I have never received a royalty check from them. Which means, no sales other than the books I’ve personally ordered and sold myself.

You work with Christian Devotions as a managing editor and with Lighthouse
Publishing of the Carolinas as an assistant editor. You are also an author with Lighthouse. What came first?
Most of my true editing work is with Christian Devotions. As I mentioned earlier, my editing work with Lighthouse involves more formatting and editing for length with books that have already been published. The author part came first, and I have evolved into the other areas as time has progressed and my relationship with both of these entities has developed.

I love the covers of the two devotional books you’ve done with Lighthouse, as well as the devotional samples I read. I’m curious about the brevity of the books in paperback. According to Amazon, they come in at 68 and 108 pages. Conference and seminar editors would usually say that’s too short a book to pitch. How does that book-length work for you?
Eddie Jones, owner and founder of Lighthouse, would disagree with those editors—except as it concerns novels, which mine aren’t. Actually, my first book with them, Grits & Grace & God, was a 365-day devotional book. The cost of producing that was more which would have made the selling price higher. His research revealed people were not willing to pay much more than $9.95 for a print book (at that time) and .99 cents for e-books. I’m not sure if that has changed. I’ve enjoyed moderate sales with the first and the second book—Grits and Gumbo and Going to Church. I don’t know that either will ever make the best-selling list, but I and the publisher are still marketing them heavily. I do my part and let God do what I can’t.

What is the best advice you’ve been given about writing or that you’ve learned that you would like to pass along?
If a person has been called to write, they need to do their best at it and do it consistently. They’ll probably never get rich, but for me that’s not the most important matter to consider. While it’s not my day job, it consumes a part of every day. I do my best and let God do the rest.

Do you have any other works in the process?
The original plan by Lighthouse was to take my 365-day devotional book and divide it into three books—two of which have already been published. And to continue the southern theme. We’ll have to see about the third. The second is still fresh off the press, so I’m not currently pursuing the third—although I have enough devotions to publish it. I continue to write devotions five days a week, which I post on my website, Love Lines from God.

That’s all for today’s interview. I hope you've learned something to help you in your writing. If you’d like to learn more about Martin’s writing, here are some links to get you started.

Tuesday, February 21, 2017

Stories of Hope and Heart: An Interview with Cathy Liggett

Today's interview is with an ACFW award- winning author who says she writes "stories of hope and heart. " I love that idea, don't you? Read on and learn how she does it and how she got started.

Let’s go back to the beginning. Your first novel was published in 2004. I know that was years ago, but what inspired you to write that story?
Professionally, I'd always written copy for advertising agencies and then also spent 10 years working for a giftware company where we created and wrote copy for various products. I enjoyed the writing I was doing but kept having this nagging feeling that I wanted to write a book someday- preferably a romance after reading so many 
Lavyrle Spencer books, I guess.

The thing was, I told some friends about this "dream," and pretty soon they 
were nagging me about it too. Finally, I felt like I had to do something about it and I joined the local chapter of Romance Writers of America around 1998, maybe? There I learned a lot about craft and the business and most importantly also met people who were extremely helpful to me in pursuing the desire to publish.

Did you get discouraged at all in the writing process?

Absolutely! I think it's like anything else. You have highs and lows, good days and bad. Even when I've got a signed deal and I'm happy my writing has an outlet for publication, that doesn't mean I don't have grueling writing days or that I'm not terrified I'll botch it up somehow. And when I'm trying to get something new going and sending out proposals, being rejected time and again can be brutal as well. But if that thing burns in you that makes you want to keep writing and creating, what can you do? You just keep trying at it!!

How long did it take you to write that first book?
I can't really remember what my deadline was. Nine months, maybe? I work part-time so I feel like I'm not the quickest at getting things to print.

How did you go about finding a publisher/agent?

Back then, there were more publishers that you could contact with an unagented manuscript. I didn't find an agent until I'd already published books with Avalon so that was around 2008, maybe. Sorry, I can't keep the years straight! I found my agent totally by accident - or I like to think of it as a divine accident. I had a women's fiction proposal that had gotten rejected by the editors I'd had appointments with at the ACFW conference. At that point, I knew I needed an agent to try to get to other publishers.

I was reading over a list of agents that Linda Goodnight had provided online and I saw an agency that caught my eye, but I wasn't sure if I should submit my proposal by snail mail or email (it was 50/50 at that time). So I got online and tried to look up the agency to see which they'd prefer, but their site was under construction. 

Then I decided to call and ask how they'd prefer the submission, and GULP - the owner of the agency happened to answer the phone (I guess it was around lunch time or something). When I asked about submitting, she asked what I had. I told her it was women's fiction and explained the storyline. She said "mail me what you have, I think I can sell this for you." What do you know she did exactly that in no time at all. The book, Beaded Hope, was published by Tyndale House Publishers and went on to win ACFW's Carol Award for women's fiction.

What’s the best encouragement you’ve had in your writing?
I'd say people! My agent is always super positive -- and honest -- with me. And I have three critique partners who I've known for the past 16 years and are more like friends than just CP's. They are such a HUGE blessing to me and are always there to share the ups and downs of this crazy process. I met them when I first joined RWA and I can't imagine writing or life without them!

What’s the hardest part about writing for you?
Blocking out time and blocking out distractions! Oh, and then there's the writing part itself and getting the story to make sense. :) That's not so easy either.

What does your editor remind you to do most often?
I don't have the same editor. But my critique partners will remind me just to write. To get it down. It doesn't have to be perfect. The writing can be fixed and fixed, again and again.

What type of publicity does your publisher expect you to do in promoting your books?
I'd say Facebook, blogging, Goodreads - and I like to do newsletter and giveaways, those are always fun. Plus, I try to do local book signings.

What did you learn in publishing your first book that helped you in your writing?
That I could actually finish a book. I wasn't sure I could do that. As I mentioned, my first books were with Avalon and their books were around 55,000 to 65,000 words. Again, I learned about Avalon from my critique partners who'd already been published there (Amazon took over Avalon's catalog a few years ago.) So I thought Avalon was a great place to target myself so I could see if I actually could pull off an entire book.

What surprised you the most in writing/publishing your first book?
Again, that I could actually finish it. And I think also how attached you get to your characters. Then, how scary it was to let them go and see what other people thought of them.

What frustrated you the most?
Honestly, I was so thrilled to be getting a book published that I would've put up with any frustration. When that letter and contract came, I remember standing in my kitchen giving a big thanks to God and then squealing down the stairs to my husband's office beyond excited!!

What do you know now about writing that you wished you had known sooner?
For me, every project feels like I'm starting over again. I do think I'm maybe a bit more patient about my first chapters. I suppose I've learned I generally have to flush things out a lot before I get the right start.

What is the best advice you’ve been given about writing or that you’ve learned that you would like to pass along?
The other day a co-worker shared that her son's English teacher said when a person writes it's always best to leave the reader either laughing or crying. I think that's true. When your emotions are invested as either a reader or a writer you draw closer to the story and to the characters and it shows.

Do you have any other works in the process?
Yes, currently, I'm working on another women's fiction and doing some promotion for my new book, The Sisters of Sugarcreek, which just came out this month from Tyndale House Publishers. 

I feel very lucky to have the opportunity to share this story of three women of different generations and cultures (1 Amish, 2 English), and how friendship can always bring a stitch of hope, no matter what we're going through - losses and loves, trials and triumphs! 

Are there any last notes that you would like to add?
In my newest novel, The Sisters of Sugarcreek, the Secret Stitches Society is dedicated to bringing a stitch of hope to others. They sneak around in the night to anonymously drop off gifts that let those who are hurting or in need know someone cares.

“A stitch of hope, Rose would always say, was just the thing that could get a person through...”

That aligns with a campaign that the publishing team at Tyndale House are promoting. 
If you’d like to learn more about the campaign you can check out Tyndale’s site at: http://readthearc.com/stitching-hope-... I hope others will join in and enjoy Stitching Hope through Random Acts of Kindness.

If you would like to learn more about Cathy's current and future works, here are some links to get you started.

Website: www.cathyliggett.com

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Writing as a Team and Solo: Author Interview with Janet Bly

Today's interview is with longtime writer Janet Chester Bly who has written numerous books both alone and with her husband. Their writing runs the gamut from Christian devotions to Western Romance and self-help books. They've long been in the spotlight as writers and speakers. Now writing on her own after the recent death of her husband, she's still inspiring and helping others in their craft and giving readers some delightful books to review. 
 
 I am in awe at the number of books you’ve written and how you easily move from non-fiction
to fiction styles. When did you publish your first book?
My late hubby Stephen’s first book was an inspirational Christian life theme entitled, Radical Discipleship, 1982. That came about because I so desired to have a book proposal to take to the next writer’s conference I attended. I wanted an excuse to make an appointment with an editor, to practice having that experience, but I didn’t have a book length project of my own yet. We worked together to prepare a package from some classes he taught to college students from the Book of Mark. What a surprise, more like a shock, when two different major publishing houses (Moody and Tyndale) expressed interest. That book has been out of print a while, but in the past few weeks I’ve started a re-release as the Following Jesus Series eBooklets. The Way-Paver Society, The Pallet Carriers Union, and Get Ready! Get Set! are the first three available.

Encouraged by his success and getting the idea from a comment made by an editor during a meal at that same conference, we began working together on devotionals for kids and teens. Soon after we co-authored Questions I’d Like To Ask and Devotions With a Difference (later reissued as Winners and Losers)

After that came our books on family life, which grew out of Stephen’s speaking ministry for Family Living Conferences sponsored by Moody Bible Institute.

At what time did you think you could make a career in writing?
Stephen was serving as a pastor in a good-sized church in southern California when we a number of writing contracts came our way. Truly, one spring we signed for twelve kids and adult novels (grouped in series). What a stress to fit all the duties and ministries into a workable schedule. We determined we needed to either cut back on the writing or move somewhere with less responsibility. After much prayer and searching over several years, we settled in a small town in north-central Idaho. Slower pace. Cheaper lifestyle. Less pressure church ministry. That was in 1988.

How do you keep the writing fresh and contemporary after so many books?
I do try to keep notebooks with me at all times. I’m constantly writing down snippets of scenes and thoughts that catch my attention. However, all of that process was so much easier when we worked as a team. Stephen exuded creativity and ideas. He was a prolific thinker with a very active imagination. I so miss his input. Though a bit of that rubbed off on me, the project output will be much slower from now on. My mind does buzz all the time, stays dialed to alert. But my rhythm and output’s on a different speed and wave length.

Since you wrote as a team, how did you divide up the duties?
We approached each project a bit different. First, we’d brainstorm the outline and topics, or characters, setting, and plot. That would take a couple weeks or so. Then, with the nonfiction, we divvied up the topics or chapters. Pretty simple to split apart and then meld together. On fiction, we’d both develop character sketches and name ideas. We’d come to an agreement eventually on what would work best. But Stephen was definitely the best at coming up with incredible names. And plot twists. He kept us going.

Sometimes Stephen would do what we called his “rush flush” of rough draft scenes, writing as fast as he could. I would edit, adapt, and add descriptors of various types. Other times, we’d each try a scene and either combine the parts or delete one and include the other.

You’ve done a number of series from contemporary times to the old west. How do you go about writing a series?
My new novel, my first adult solo attempt, was a first book that had too many plot lines to keep it to a stand-alone. I had so much more material left that it just begged to be a series. The first one, Wind in the Wires, a Trails of Reba Cahill adventure, was released several months ago. I plan to start working on Book 2 about May 1st with a planned late Fall release. I’ve got a box full of a jumble of ideas that need major crafting to come to life in an organized, captivating story world. My working title at the moment is From the Prairie to the Ocean. Not catchy enough yet, but it helps me focus on the movement of the main characters.

As a rule, Stephen began with a proposal for the editors of a series of books. If the first one did okay in the market within a month or two after its initial release, they allowed more to be published. Other times, he stayed with a one-book deal, especially if it was a bit different than his others, or very experimental like his contemporary mystery adventure, Paperback Writer. The whole story takes place by looking inside the convoluted, crazy levels of the mind of a fiction writer. The reader doesn’t always know what’s real and what was his fantasy being played out. Writers absolutely loved it and gave him rave reviews. Had mixed comments with regular fans that expected a good ole western or something similar.

Do you think there will always be print books? Or do you think it will all go digital?
Yes, I do believe there will always be print books. They’ll sure be on my bookshelves. Though I have a Kindle and appreciate the advantages, I still prefer reading (and marking) paper and hardbacks.

How do you feel the digital market has changed the publishing industry for the better or worse?
I’ve seen huge turnovers of earthquake movements in publishing in recent years since we started in the early ‘80s. From my viewpoint, It’s been a perfect storm of a number of elements. The crush of numbers of new writers that exploded on the scene. Limited bookshelf and publisher production space. The overall economy turndown. The phenomenon of large distributors such as Walmart and Costco purchasing big bundles of books and then returning them if they didn’t sell. Celebrities and folks with ready platforms whose books (often written by ghost writers) became bestsellers and left the lesser known in the dust.

In addition, the demand for writers to be represented by agents. Publishers being bought out by larger companies. Countless reputable publishing houses going bankrupt overnight. The slow turn around from total disdain of self-publishing to the proliferation of almost everybody doing it. For those who once were in mainstream publishing, and now producing their own books too, a new title emerged: Indie writers. Now, anyone can publish his or her own book. And almost everyone does. The problem is, the market’s inundated and not always with good quality. Hard to discern the junk from the quality productions at times.

Your works have been published in the both traditional and indie markets. Since you had a lot of experience with the traditional side, how did you adjust to putting out your own books?
There are pros and cons. It’s nice to have a quicker turnaround in release dates. And it’s great to know for sure I’m going to be published. However, the incredible amount of work (and expense) involved saps resources and becomes so overwhelming at times.

Every step of the process, from actual printing details to distribution and marketing outreach, is now up to me. Some of it’s enjoyable. Some of it’s excruciating to figure out and find the time and energy. Not in my comfort zone at all. There’s the constant need to push books when I’d rather just spend time writing. And I prefer getting to know potential readers as friends and not think of them as customers all the time.

What promotions have worked best for you in book sales?
The best book sales come from speaking engagements, especially longer interactions such as weekend events when you spend a lot of time with the participants. It's always been that way. Still is.

How do you make a book signing a success?
It’s always a challenge. Often hard to engage people who don’t know you or your works. I’ve had some good response when combined with a workshop. Provided interesting giveaways. Had signups for drawings along with perks for subscribing to newsletter. Discounted my book (if agreeable with bookstore). Assigned someone be your reach-out person, to greet people and and encourage folks to come to your table.

What is some of the best writing advice that you’ve received or could give?
As a writer, nothing that happens to you, or that involves people around you, is ever wasted. It can all be used somehow, some way.

Trust God’s timing with your whole heart. Even when you have seasons of not writing, when you perceive no outlets, or everyone around you seems to have much more success. Rely on His purpose in you and through you to come to full fruition. He has a plan for your ministry and message. It will happen.

Are there any other points about writing that you would like to add?
Never presume you have it made, that you’ve got nothing more to learn. Don’t just grind out your material. Find fresh ways to present it. Figure out another slant. Be in constant renewal, no matter your age or stage.

What new works do you have planned?
Some I've mentioned above. Right now I’m re-issuing some of my late hubby’s early books in adapted formats. The Following Jesus Series, for instance. I’m also bringing back into print as many of our juvenile novels (ages 8-14) as possible. As of now, I’ve completed for eBooks and paperback editions the Nathan T. Riggins Western Adventure series, fiction for boys. Hope to have at least 15 of them ready before I start on Book 2 of the Trails of Reba Cahill Series in May.

This interview just touched on the many books Janet and Stephen have written. Hope you will take the time to review their website to get more details on each of the series and stand alone books.

Website: www.BlyBooks.com
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Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Writing as a Team: An Interview with Betsy Duffey & Laurie Myers, The Writing Sisters

I'd like to introduce you to today's interview with a duo for a change -- Betsy Duffey and Laurie Myers, The Writing Sisters. These two sisters were destined to write and began critiquing manuscripts at an early age for their mother, Betsy Byars. Some of her writing achievements include the National Book Award for Children's Fiction, Edgar Award and the prestigious Newbery medal.

It always helps to have the writing genes in you of an award winning writer. Still they had to make their own way in the writing world on their own skills. They went on to become authors of more than thirty-five children’s novels. Their first book for adults is  The Shepherd’s Song. Let's see what we can learn from them!

When did you get the idea that maybe you could become writers like your mom?
Even as children we considered ourselves writers. Seeing our mother write gave us a realistic idea about what it takes to be a writer. She would write for hours every day at a desk in the corner of her bedroom. We shared the joys and pains of writing even as children. 

We both started writing when our children began reading. We wrote the books that we wanted them to read. When those ideas began to come we knew what to do – write for hours a day! When you are raising children you are in their world and for us children’s books was a good fit. We had so much material to work with all around us.

Your bio seems to show the books started taking shape more as a second career. Why was there
a delay in starting?
The delay in starting was more an issue of time and maturity. We both had different careers in medicine first. We both married and had children. Then the desire to write came and the time to write was there.

You and your sister and mother have collaborated on multiple children’s’ books. How did you split up the work 3 ways?
Our first collaboration included our mother and the two of us. We worked individually on our chapters then met together, sitting around Mom’s kitchen table where we wrote the first and last chapters to tie the book together. This worked well for us and we did three more books the same way.

When our mother stopped writing we continued collaborating as sisters but adopted a different work strategy. We have a shared document system that we can both access on line. Now we can change and rewrite each other’s work. It helps that we both had years of experience working with editors and critique groups and having other people give input to our writing. 

Who has the final say of what goes into the book?
Our agreement is that we never go forward with a change or an idea unless we both agree. That makes the issue of who has final say a moot point.

Many non-writers think writing for children is easy, but it still needs a story arc like any other
book. Has any one book been more challenging than another?
Children are a pretty tough audience. They won’t continue reading a book unless they are rewarded with every word. The Shepherd’s Song was so different for us. We had never written a book with over 64 pages. We had never written a book with adult themes. But, writing for children honed our skills. So many things are the same. You need memorable characters, strong plot, tight writing. Adults like a good story too.

How do you keep the writing fresh and contemporary after so many books?
Each book brings a different character, setting and theme. The Shepherd’s Song was especially challenging in that it had twelve different characters, and settings. The research makes it interesting for us. We love exploring a new setting online and often visit the location we are writing about.

You’ve now switched styles and are writing adult novels. Why the change?
The change for us came with the idea, to write about Psalm 23. We both felt that we wanted to integrate our faith with our writing and first began to look at how to do that for children. We felt that God was leading us into something deeper and we were drawn to the Psalm. At the same time we couldn’t see it as a children’s book. 

Will you still write for children? Are there any other writing styles you’d like to try?
For us it is more about what ideas and inspiration comes. Right now we are continuing to write stories using scripture as a catalyst for change in the characters. Our next book focuses on the Lord’s Prayer. We have also written several devotional series and are always open to new things.

How do you write? Do you do an outline first? Do you do individual character development before doing the full plot? 
This was a source of tension for us when we first began to write together. Laurie is a plotter. Betsy a seat-of-the-pants writer. We had to find a balance between outlining and allowing the story to develop naturally. We like to use a storyboard – a large poster board where we can map out the story but still move things around. The process of working together required our surrender of the work to God. When we both let go of the control of the book we begin to work together and appreciate the skills and the wiring that God gave each of us.
 
Have you discovered some secret that has helped your process for writing? We have always been avid readers. We know books from reading books. A thought that has helped us is that writing is the creation of reading. When we get stuck we think if I were reading this book what would happen next. What would this character say? What would I want to read?

Do you use writing programs such as Scrivener?
We don’t use writing programs. Because we collaborate we write on an online document together.

Books that are Christian themed are growing in demand. Why do you think that is occurring?
People want to find meaning in their lives and are constantly disappointed by the world. Readers are drawn to stories of hope. The Shepherd’s Song strikes a chord with those who wonder if their life matters.

What is some of the best writing advice that you’ve received or could give?
Our mother was so wise. I was lamenting one time about a rejection and the realization that I had written a book that was not publishable. She told me that no writing is ever wasted and I’ve held onto that. Some things we write to learn the skill of writing. Some things we write and resurrect parts of the book years later. Some things we write to work out our own issues. Nothing is wasted.

Any last tips about writing that you would like to add?

Writing is a journey. We have watched our mother write for over seventy years through many ups and downs. We have each had our own journey with successes and failures. We can enjoy the process through the ups and downs.  

That's all for today's interview. I hope it helps you on your own writing journey. If you'd like to know more about Betsy Duffey and Laurie Myers, here are some ways to do so.


www.WritingSisters.com        www.facebook.com/WritingSisters        The Shepherd’s Song